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BOARD OF TRUSTEES AGENDA
AND DRAFT MINUTES
Thursday, March 22, 2007
Call to OrderPledge of Allegiance Members Present/ Members Absent Call to the Public 1. Approval of Agenda2.
Consent Agenda All items listed are considered to be routine by the Board and will be enacted by one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless a Board member or Citizen so requests, in which event the item will be removed from the Consent Agenda and considered in its normal sequence on the agenda. a.)
Approval of March 8, 2007 Regular Meeting Minutes b.)
March 13, 2007 Special Planning Commission Report 3.
Loves Creek 5. Franklin Knoll Site Plan Extension 6. Marion
7. Darakjian and 8. Forest Manholes 9. Clark Hill Invoice 10. MHOG Waterline 11. Charter Communications
12. Salary Comparison 13. Banking Investment Approval 14. Marion Township Road
Committee Report 15. Township Flea Market Correspondence/ Updates
Township Issues Supreme Court Case
Township Wide Rubbish Removal Discussion
For the Good of the
Township Call to the Public Adjournment DRAFT MINUTES
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Dan Lowe, MEMBERS
ABSENT: None *************************************************************************************************************************** CALL
TO ORDER
PLEDGE TO FLAG
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT The board members
introduced themselves. CALL TO THE PUBLIC None. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
CONSENT AGENDA LOVE’S CREEK Residents of Love’s
Creek and Call to the Public Randall Marich, 4040
Love’s Creek: Mr.
Marich said the original estimate was approximately $3,000 per parcel.
He also said several residents weren’t able to attend because there
wasn’t enough advance notice. Mr.
Hanvey explained this is an informal meeting.
Mr. Marich said it should be either hands up or hands down as far as
the majority who want to pay that amount of money to drain somebody’s
property down at Sesame and Love’s Creek.
Why put in drain pipes when all of these years it’s been
sufficient. Mr. Marich said
he’d rather have gravel than a $400,000 road. Mr. Hanvey said the
basic purpose of the township’s involvement is to provide financing.
Love’s Creek and Sesame are both private roads that were developed
that way at the request of the developer.
The residents own the road and control what happens to it.
The township’s role is to provide financing.
If the township provides the financing, then the township must go
through a rigorous procedure to ensure that everything is done according to
a plan. The plan would be
available for everyone’s inspection. The
township engineer would be on-site during construction to make sure it’s
done according to the plan. Mr.
Marich asked if the residents of Sesame and Love’s Creek would vote it on.
Mr. Hanvey said Public Act 188 doesn’t have a formal provision for
a vote beyond the petition. Dick Dattilo:
Mr. Dattilo said he’s owned a lot on Sesame for 15 years.
He said there’s no mention of any drainage in the letter.
Mr. Hanvey said that drainage is something that normally happens when
a road is constructed to ensure that there will be some drainage.
Mr. Dattilo said there’s nothing in the letter about drainage.
Mr. Hanvey said the plans haven’t been prepared yet.
The estimate was based on a list of materials and the review of the
road by the township’s engineer. Mr.
Dattilo said he counted 16 homes on Love’s Creek and 15 on Larry Grunn, 3969
Love’s Creek: Mr.
Grunn said people are upset by the cost.
Previous bids from Cadillac Asphalt were $245,000 for 3” asphalt
and $277,000 for 4” asphalt. Mr.
Grunn said he’s been asking for the estimate from OHM, but still hasn’t
received it. Mr. Hanvey said the
number that’s been provided is not a contract number; it’s the
engineer’s estimate of probable cost.
The number can always be reduced if the actual bids come in lower.
If they come in more than 5% higher, public hearings would have to be
held again. Mr. Grunn said the
road is failing, all they want to do is remove the asphalt, put a good base
down, check the sewers and the drains, make sure that it’s fixed right.
Cindy Alesso, 4045
Love’s Creek: Ms.
Alesso said the letter didn’t indicate what the number represents in terms
of repairs, and asked for a recap. Mr.
Hanvey said the exact specifications have not yet been prepared.
Dan Lowe said what the job entails is pulvering the existing asphalt,
regrade and reslope it, ditch where necessary, and repave.
Jim Myers, 3966
Love’s Creek: Mr.
Myers wanted to clarify continuous ownership because he owns four parcels.
Mr. Hanvey said if there’s a consensus on continguous lots being
considered one lot, and being assessed one share.
This would eliminate owners combining lots to avoid having to pay
multiple shares; the definition of parcel is taken from the Land Division
Act. Mr. Myers said he doesn’t
remember discussing the work being this extensive. Larry Grunn:
Mr. Grunn said the steel culverts underneath the road are 35-40 years
old and they could be rusted. Dan
Lowe said chances are the driveway culverts won’t be changed, just cross
tubes in the road. Mr. Grunn
asked what is proposed for the road and what is for engineering.
What are the engineering costs proposed?
A copy of the estimate was provided to the attendees, and the
engineering costs total $65,000. Randall Marich:
Mr. Marich asked if there is a possibility of having a vote.
Mr. Hanvey said there’s nothing in the statute that provides for
that process. Larry Grunn:
Mr. Grunn asked if they are required to use the township’s
engineer. Mr. Hanvey said if the
township provides financing, then they have to use the township engineer.
Mr. Grunn asked if the board would be interested in seeing other
bids; maybe the township is getting gouged. Les Andersen clarified
what Public Act 188 requires. The
property owners have the option to do the project with their own financing.
Larry Diedrich said they feel the engineering company is really
getting in their pockets. Dan
Lowe asked if they have other bids. Larry
Grunn said yes, $15,000-$16,000. Dan Lowe said you have to compare apples to
apples, but $65,000 sounds like a lot to him.
Pat Swift, 3867
Love’s Creek: Mr.
Swift said the last meeting was 15 months ago. One
of the issues was to provide some options as well as recommendations.
It sounds like this is what they have to do.
In the last meeting, there was a great deal of debate on the issue of
how the assessment would be distributed.
Dick Datillo:
Mr. Datillo said he sees three options:
do nothing, only do Love’s Creek and not Sesame, there are
variables. The owners should
decide what needs to be done. Les
Andersen said there’s only one option if township money is involved.
Karen Maisano, 4114
Love’s Creek: Ms.
Maisano said the residents were only given two days notice, and they should
find out the general feeling about paving.
Gary Turnbull, Sr., Tracy Turnbull, Roll call vote:
Joe Moore from Boss
Engineering was present on behalf of the applicant to request final site
plan approval for this project. He
reviewed the project for the board members.
Les Andersen questioned the dimension for the truck cab and trailer
on page four, shown at 55’. Mr.
Moore explained that initially, Carlisle Wortman, OHM and Boss Engineering
were using different templates, and that 55’ is the standard.
Les Andersen and Dan Lowe disagreed that 55’ is the standard.
The applicants, Kevin
Jappaya and George Jappaya, said tenants are reluctant because of the high
sewer and water fees, and asked the board if it would consider reducing
fees. PREMIER FARMS REVIEW Information is provided
in the packets based on a request from the last meeting.
Les Andersen suggested having the township planner educate the board
on its role, etc., regarding this project.
FRANKLIN KNOLL SITE
PLAN EXTENSION Pat Keough, from
Advantage Engineering, requested an extension on the site plan approval for
this project. The Board
determined that an extension for this project is not required, and will have
the zoning administrator inform Mr. Keough (Action Item #01.) DARAKJIAN/HIGHLAND
SPECIAL ASSESSMENT Two projects, Highland
Development and Ara Darakjian, with TOWNSHIP RUBBISH
REMOVAL THE The township received a
letter from the City of MHOG WATERLINE CHARTER COMMUNICATIONS A proposed agreement
from Charter Communications is in the board packets.
The township’s attorney has reviewed the document, and he advises
that Section VI needs to be filled out for 5%, and Charter Communications
should be formally advised of that. SALARY COMPARISON BANKING INVESTMENT
APPROVAL TOWNSHIP ROAD COMMITTEE
REPORT Additional information
was received from the Livingston County Road Commission on what is included
in the estimate. Dan Lowe said
he feels the work shouldn’t cost more than $30,000.
Les Andersen said the township shouldn’t have a road committee if
there isn’t any funding. He
also said it’s important for the township to have a representative at the
Road Commission meetings. He
asked for the board members opinion on putting a road millage on a ballot.
The board members didn’t feel that was a good idea.
TOWNSHIP FLEA MARKET HOWELL AREA FIRE
AUTHORITY ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION The articles of
incorporation are included in the packets for the board’s review.
This item can be discussed at the next meeting. FIRE BUDGET Included in the packet
is information for review and discussion at the next meeting. BOARD PACKET DEADLINE Les Andersen motioned
to change the cutoff for board packets to Thursday at CORRESPONDENCE/UPDATES
The two issues, Supreme Court case and rubbish
removal, were discussed earlier. FOR THE GOOD OF THE TOWNSHIP
None. CALL
TO THE PUBLIC
None. ADJOURNMENT
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